WithRyan Coogler’s sequel filmBlack Panther: Wakanda Foreverjust on the horizon, ushering in the bittersweet close to the Marvel Cinematic Universe’s Phase 4, it’s time to begin looking to the future. At this summer’s San Diego Comic-Con, Marvel Studios PresidentKevin Feigerevealed an entire slate of projects in the works, with Phase 5 and 6 mapped out for the coming years. Set for a 2024 release was the fourthCaptain Americasequel,Captain America: New World Order, markingAnthony Mackie’s first feature-length debut as the new Captain America. Collider’s editor-in-chiefSteve Weintraubwas able to sit down with one of the producers for the film,Nate Moore, for an exclusive tease of what fans can expect from the final Phase 5 feature.

For fans of the Disney+ miniseriesThe Falcon and the Winter Soldier, which marked Sam Wilson’s (Mackie) first official onscreen appearance as Captain America,New World Orderis going to be a treat. The film will bring back two of the series' writers,Dalan MussonandMalcolm Spellman, as well asDanny Ramirez(Top Gun: Maverick) reprising his role as Joaquin Torres andCarl Lumbly(Men of Honor) as Isaiah Bradley. Though not much was previously disclosed regarding the film’s plot, directorJulius Onahshared his enthusiasm at the helm, saying, “I’m really excited to see this man go from a counselor, as an ex-Army vet, to a Falcon, to Captain America, and bring that set of experiences and that point of view into the decision-making that one has to make, as this incredibly powerful character in the MCU.”

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When we caught up with Moore, a producer for some of Marvel’s biggest hits likeCaptain America: Civil WarandBlack Panther, Weintraub inquired about his next project on the roster. With Moore’s most recent production,Wakanda Forever, hitting theaters in early November, he did share that next up for him isNew World Order, which he confirms is currently in pre-production and heading into filming in the spring of 2023. Knowing this, we were curious about the script, what it’s looking like at this point, and whether the team was happy with it. The producer played coy at first, allowing that they’re very happy with the script, but was then plenty forthcoming when asked for a tease including confirmingHarrison Fordas General Thaddeus “Thunderbolt” Ross, saying:

“Well, look, Sam Wilson’s Captain America, he is going to bring his own team to play. It’s no secret that Samuel Sterns is making his return to the Marvel Cinematic Universe, which is fantastic because Tim Blake Nelson’s the best. Harrison Ford is taking on the role of General Thaddeus “Thunderbolt” Ross, and to see Sam Wilson and Thunderbolt Ross, which if you remember actually threw him in prison at the end ofCivil Warbecause he violated the Sokovia Accords. There’s going to be some natural sparks there, which I think are going to be really fun.”

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Having already known the film would take a moreparanoid thriller approach, it’s fascinating to be looking so far ahead for the MCU. WithNew World Order’s premiere set for May 2024 to round out Phase 5, how will Harrison Ford’s debut appearance asGeneral Thaddeus “Thunderbolt” Rossaffect Sam following the events ofCivil War, ahead of Ross' appearance inThundebolts? No doubt the two will be butting heads over how best to protect Earth from the ensuing Multiverse Saga. Perhaps even more puzzling, though, is how willTim Blake Nelson’s re-emergence asthe film’s announced antagonist, Samuel Sterns, come into play?

Captain America: New World Orderwill hit theaters on June 05, 2025. Check out our sit-down with Moore below, and stay tuned to Collider for more on Marvel Studios' upcoming projects.